The Narcotic(s) Thread

Not sure if it's okay to make a thread about drug use and/or abuse, but it is a subject relevant to many individuals within this style.
So I started this thread for a place to talk about drugs in general, and especially how they might relate to the music itself.
As for myself, I am toxicomanic, which pretty much means that instead of being hooked on one drug or class of drugs, I use whatever (even if its not enjoyable for me, i.e., THC which I still use even though the effects have long since become unenjoyable.
I am currently on diphenhydramine, first time, small dose (150mg).

When I was exploring the recreational potential of Seroquel (Quetiapine), I realized that it might be a very good drug for depressive black metal.
If any of you have ever taken seroquel, try to imagine me on 300mg at band practice, lol. (yes, really).

Do drugs? Post here.

Against drugs? Let your scorn rain down...

Easier said than done when you're dealing with addiction, but it's always better to do the research on a certain drug before you try it (common sense, right?).
For this reason I provide these links, although they are probably well-known by anyone:

Almost anything can be found somewhere here...

www.erowid.org

www.drugs-forum.com

Read how dumb other people have been before doing something completely stupid (or awesome) yourself.

I'm not into drugs or stuff like that but the idea of doing a topic about that is quite good in fact, I smoke cigarettes for one month so...

Sometimes I wish that all I did was smoke cigarettes, but then I realize I'm just too sober lol.

I can understand why so many artists are addicted to heroin, opiates really make you get into the groove of the music.
Stimulants are good, but have you ever tried to play really slowly when you're cracked out of it (i.e., really high on speed)? lolz

I don't do drugs.

I only drink and I've tried smoking couple of times.
What was the first drug you tried?
I'm guessing pot (if you count that as a drug)?

Strangely, I don't consider marijuana a drug, even though it is, and it tends to fuck me up more than some other hard drugs I take.
Marijuana was the first drug all of my friends tried, but the first drug I tried was LSD. Acid became my favorite drug for several years (although I wasn't able to acquire it very often).

For years, aside from acid, all I did was drink and smoke. I'm pretty sure my entry into harder drug abuse was when I decided to take some leftover pain medication that I couldn't sell to anyone. They were opiates, Morphine, Emtec (Codeine/Acetaminophen), and Tecnal-C (which I love, its a compound of Codeine, Butalbitol (a barbiturate), Caffeine and Aspirin).
After that I started experimenting heavily with DXM. I can say with some confidence that Cannabis is NOT a ''gateway'' substance. For me, it was DXM. Dextrompethorphan has been the foundatin of my drug abuse for... going on four years now.

I remember a time not so long ago, when I said ''I'll never take speed, fuck that!''

The best lulz is at yourself.



(anybody get that Crowley reference? haha)

I have no idea what are you talking about so I guess it's Google time.

Lol... I actually get that alot.

I guessed.

Do you know of any combination of legal drugs you can combine and have trips or something like that?

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Do you know of any combination of legal drugs you can combine and have trips or something like that?

I wouldn't be a qualified pharmacist if I didn't (not a qualified pharmacist).

But yes, there are a few legal drugs worth purchasing.
DXM is probably the easiest (and possibly the best) to find. It comes in a lot of night-time cough syrups, the problem with that is that many of these syrups also contain acetaminophen (tylenol) which can scrap your liver in a large dose. If looking for DXM, its best to buy the Robitussin cough gels, as they contain ONLY dextromethorphan (15mg per pill). Usually, for recreation, I would take all 20 pills. I do NOT recommend that for anyone if its their first time.
You're 14, probably built a bit smaller than me... I would say take 5 pills, then another 5 in 30-45 minutes.
If all you can find is cough syrup, then you CAN take it, just not as much of it due to the tylenol. If you're taking syrup I'd suggest that you take no more than 2 full (FULL) medicine cups (the little plastic cups that come with Nyquil and shit.
Oh yes... it can make you nauseous (only happened to me once, enough to make me sick), or cause stomach discomfort.
The trip is worth the discomfort.

Diphenhydramine is also legal, it's an antihistamine that comes in allergy medication. I'm scared shitless of this drug really, and I won't allow myself (at least not right now) to go over a dose of 300mg (I've only done it once, yesterday and that was 150mg).
The reason for this is that it can FUCK YOU UP BEYOND BELIEF. Apparently. I don't wish to experience it in its full effect. There is no euphoria, but it causes INTENSE hallucinations that cannot be distinguished from reality (meaning that if you see satan standing before you holding up the severed head of a unicorn to baptize you... you will think its real no matter how ridiculous the hallucination).
On my dose yesterday I only experienced minor hallucinations barely visible, kind of like a creeping synthetic mist in the air, but it was okay for a test-run.
People usually take around 300mg-600mg for a recreational dose.
If you (or anyone) wants to try it... start low.

There are supposed to be shitloads of herbs and plants that can get you high, but I dismiss anything ''natural'' as hippie-drugs, lol.

There is also an increasing number of ''designer drugs'' which are (for the moment) legal.
These are known as ''research chemicals'' and its really either hit-or-miss with these. Probably the most well-known is MDPV (google ''Bath Salts mdpv), which is responsible for a rising death-toll and multiple institutionalizations. Being a complete fucking idiot, I would try it (and I started the ''Canada Against Bath Salts'' Facebook page, lol).
Another research chemical which I have tried and will try again is Methoxetamine (MXE) which acts as a dissociative drug (like DXM).
Research chemicals should be very cautiously experimented with, as there is little to no information on the short-term or long-term side effects, hence the ''research...''

But seriously, nothing beats the well-known black market drugs.

Opiates, please;)

Dextromethorphan FAQ

English:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/

French:

http://lucid-state.org/wiki/FAQ_sur_le_DXM

Interesting.

I did drugs. I stopped. My heart do not feel so good, so I better stopped.
All I do now is joins often. Nothing more.
I also try to stop alcohol now. Quite hard.
Took cocaïne regularly.
Tried LSD, Opiates, Subutex, Mephedrone, Ketamine, Speed, mdma etc...
Not good. Addictive. My heart almost stopped.
Finally I guess I decided to live a little longer.

I've smoked a bit of marijuana, and I drink very occasionally, but I haven't gone any further then that. I would be open to trying some psychedelics, however..

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Finally I guess I decided to live a little longer.

I completely understand. I wish it were that simple in my case. I take drugs to help cope with some rather nasty psychoses. I'm barely functional at all without them, but I fear that the side-effects are beginning to take their toll.

I wanted to reply to this yesterday, but I was too high.
Mourning Woods had band practice the last couple days, and we got high on Methoxetamine (MXE), a legal designer drug of the "research Chemical" variety.
I quite enjoyed it, but it is something to be very careful with. Powerful shit, really. It's a dissociative that is a near-analog of Ketamine. Gives you the same sort of body-buzz, but no visual hallucinations really.
It lasts longer than Ketamine, hours longer. There is a bit of a mental feeling that reminds me of the thought-patterns you get with LSD (rapid thoughts, 1000 epiphanies a second, etc.). It also seems to be very spiritual, as it makes you feel connected to everything (an idea I normally hate except for if I'm on opiates).
The comedown is smooth and clean. This could be a near-perfect drug if the long-term side effects turn out to be endurable.

We're human guinea pigs in the Post-New Age...

I drink quite often and smoke cigarettes for about a year... and I've smoked weed several times.

About 'hard' drugs... My cousin was addicted to drugs and he did terrible things to himself and to his family... I don't want to end like that (according to him, "it really fuc*ed his mind"). Using synthetic drugs doesn't also fit in my beliefs. I was raised by my parents to (quote from "the Wicker Man"): "to love nature and to fear it, and to rely on it and to appease it when necessary. "

Maybe I'll use some weed, mushrooms, herbs etc. in future.

By now, I try to give up smoking (I've got allergy that can transform into asthma) and cigarettes really don't help my lungs be better.

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About 'hard' drugs... My cousin was addicted to drugs and he did terrible things to himself and to his family... I don't want to end like that (according to him, "it really fuc*ed his mind"). Using synthetic drugs doesn't also fit in my beliefs. I was raised by my parents to (quote from "the Wicker Man"): "to love nature and to fear it, and to rely on it and to appease it when necessary. "

It is very tragic that drugs often result in this type of tension. Addiction is a very real thing that many people don't take realistically until it is too late. I'm sorry to hear about your family, drugs are definitely nothing to fool around with.
In my own case, I guess I've tried to "minimize" any damage done to my family by making sure that most damage is done to myself (which doesn't help anything at all, just makes it more painful).

I don't want to end like this either...

My bandmate (Lugubrious Awakening) and I were talking about this the other day. We came up with the idea of releasing two recordings and then going directly to rehab. I think it's a good idea, because I would like to still be lucid enough to make more albums afterwards.

Whether or not it will happen that way remains to be seen.

I smoked weed few times and also played with some medicins which consist codeine (that was when I had some problems with myself). But now I don't use something like that

I like alcohol, but not to overdose : D

A question to Pathetique: Is it safe for me to take Robitussin if i have allergy that can turn into asthma? I read this medicine can't be taken by asthmatics (though I'm not one, and I don't have problems with breathing). What do You think?

Can't even count everything that's been forced into my body against its will, but Im an opiate-head.
I would say that my favorite drug is buprenorphine and a drog that I've always hated would be alcohol.


A fun fact:
I usually wrote my music whem comming down after days on amphetamine, only then did I have enough time and feelings to create.

I've started dabbling in shrooms lately, and have fallen in love with them. Both trips have been completely unique, and yet have succeeded in producing some truly amazing states. During my first trip I felt utterly at peace at the world, and did a great deal of introspection and contemplation. My second trip was sent on a negative course by some outside circumstances, but even that was interesting- I couldn't control what I was saying, and for a moment I was convinced I was going to die. At that point, my mind became consumed by an endless stream of numbers and letters, none of which were coherent. I was terrified, and yet it still somehow made sense, and the overall state of chaos I endured was strangely beautiful.

Interesting discussion indeed.

As for myself, I follow Straight Edge, which means that I refrain from alcohol, cigarettes or any kind of drugs. I also don't drink coffee.